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	<description>Honor Mahony is editor of the EUobserver in Brussels and has also written for The Irish Times, Sunday Business Post and Spiegel Online. Her blog takes a closer look at political life in Brussels as well as wider trends in the European Union.</description>
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		<title>By: Marcel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1785</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To appoint people in unelected and unaccountable positions is what the EU has always been about. It was build so that national parliaments could be bypassed (more or less) whilst all the way keeping up the pretence of a &#039;democratic&#039; process.

Monnet (who utterly despised democracy) planned to destroy all democracy but at the same time fool the peoples by letting the democratic national institutions continue to exist. The idea was, that people would be fooled by that. National parliaments and governments however were to lose all its powers and those were to be transferred and centralized in Brussels in the hands of a mutually appointed unaccountable class. All touched up by applying a fake layer of &#039;democracy&#039; by having some meaningless &#039;Parliament&#039; elected (note: the process of election does not automatically make the elected democratic).

And touting someone&#039;s &#039;green&#039; credentials, is liek touting someone&#039;s fascist credentials. The word &#039;green&#039; is used to cover up fascist policies such as regulating food/drink and controlling how much people can drive or fly aeroplane (regulations are coming, fascist road charging schemes dreamt up by the EU Reich are coming, what do you think Galileo is for?).

I despise &#039;green&#039; politicians.

Reinfeldt does not speak for me, nor does the EU. No democratic legitimacy whatsoever. I didn&#039;t elect Reinfeldt or corrupt clown Barroso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To appoint people in unelected and unaccountable positions is what the EU has always been about. It was build so that national parliaments could be bypassed (more or less) whilst all the way keeping up the pretence of a &#8216;democratic&#8217; process.</p>
<p>Monnet (who utterly despised democracy) planned to destroy all democracy but at the same time fool the peoples by letting the democratic national institutions continue to exist. The idea was, that people would be fooled by that. National parliaments and governments however were to lose all its powers and those were to be transferred and centralized in Brussels in the hands of a mutually appointed unaccountable class. All touched up by applying a fake layer of &#8216;democracy&#8217; by having some meaningless &#8216;Parliament&#8217; elected (note: the process of election does not automatically make the elected democratic).</p>
<p>And touting someone&#8217;s &#8216;green&#8217; credentials, is liek touting someone&#8217;s fascist credentials. The word &#8216;green&#8217; is used to cover up fascist policies such as regulating food/drink and controlling how much people can drive or fly aeroplane (regulations are coming, fascist road charging schemes dreamt up by the EU Reich are coming, what do you think Galileo is for?).</p>
<p>I despise &#8216;green&#8217; politicians.</p>
<p>Reinfeldt does not speak for me, nor does the EU. No democratic legitimacy whatsoever. I didn&#8217;t elect Reinfeldt or corrupt clown Barroso.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, looks like some spambots have gotten past the CAPTCHA screen. Whom should we contact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, looks like some spambots have gotten past the CAPTCHA screen. Whom should we contact?</p>
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		<title>By: Fiddling Recession</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiddling Recession</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowadays, we are in the fast pacing world. But the problem now in our society is that we try to run after time! (It&#039;s as if we don&#039;t have enough time in the world to do what we really like to do.  That&#039;s why, we are creating chaos in the world! Why don&#039;t we slow down a bit? At least, we can feel the pleasure of living. Actually, the author, philosopher, historian, and mathematician Bertrand Russell once wrote an essay called In Praise of Idleness, and we often forget the simple pleasure of writing a poem or doing crosswords in the paper, or reading someone&#039;s memoirs, if it&#039;s interesting enough. (The recollections of a business software engineer wouldn&#039;t count – boring!). In modern life, we too often are caught up in work or whether or not to get an online payday loan, and forget to take time to do nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowadays, we are in the fast pacing world. But the problem now in our society is that we try to run after time! (It&#8217;s as if we don&#8217;t have enough time in the world to do what we really like to do.  That&#8217;s why, we are creating chaos in the world! Why don&#8217;t we slow down a bit? At least, we can feel the pleasure of living. Actually, the author, philosopher, historian, and mathematician Bertrand Russell once wrote an essay called In Praise of Idleness, and we often forget the simple pleasure of writing a poem or doing crosswords in the paper, or reading someone&#8217;s memoirs, if it&#8217;s interesting enough. (The recollections of a business software engineer wouldn&#8217;t count – boring!). In modern life, we too often are caught up in work or whether or not to get an online payday loan, and forget to take time to do nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-1730&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1730&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JL&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt; Massive resources? Even countries as small as Luxembourg can carry out the responsibilities of a Presidency successfully provided, and it is a big proviso, national politicians grasp the fact that what is required is a core of about 200 effective chairpersons.

Hijacking the rotating presidency to promote national prestige and objectives has been a feature of all Presidencies.  Of the many meetings that take place outside the places of work of the EU (Brussels, Luxembourg and Strasbourg), none are formally required and the cost, appropriately, falls to the Member State that chooses to host them.

The phenomenon is one of the strongest arguments for &lt;b&gt;abandoning the system of rotating presidencies&lt;/b&gt;
 &lt;/blockquote&gt;...in favour of what? Fewer persons, with more power than their predecessors, serving for terms ten times longer in duration, and in &lt;i&gt;appointed positions&lt;/i&gt; to boot (as the Lisbon Treaty proposes)?

The EU&#039;s pseudodemocracy was set up as a mockery of true democracy&#151;it works in the exact reverse manner, with the executive making the laws and passing them, and the parliament not being a legislature. Frankly, if the &quot;national prestige&quot; of individual member states do not get raised on the stage (as ineffectual as it may be), then but one member state will rise to the fore and dominate. (Maggie Thatcher pointed out which one, back in &#039;95; it&#039;s the one she said whose &quot;national character is to &lt;b&gt;dominate...&lt;/b&gt;)</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-1730" rel="nofollow">JL</a> :</strong> Massive resources? Even countries as small as Luxembourg can carry out the responsibilities of a Presidency successfully provided, and it is a big proviso, national politicians grasp the fact that what is required is a core of about 200 effective chairpersons.</p>
<p>Hijacking the rotating presidency to promote national prestige and objectives has been a feature of all Presidencies.  Of the many meetings that take place outside the places of work of the EU (Brussels, Luxembourg and Strasbourg), none are formally required and the cost, appropriately, falls to the Member State that chooses to host them.</p>
<p>The phenomenon is one of the strongest arguments for <b>abandoning the system of rotating presidencies</b>
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<p>&#8230;in favour of what? Fewer persons, with more power than their predecessors, serving for terms ten times longer in duration, and in <i>appointed positions</i> to boot (as the Lisbon Treaty proposes)?</p>
<p>The EU&#8217;s pseudodemocracy was set up as a mockery of true democracy&#8212;it works in the exact reverse manner, with the executive making the laws and passing them, and the parliament not being a legislature. Frankly, if the &#8220;national prestige&#8221; of individual member states do not get raised on the stage (as ineffectual as it may be), then but one member state will rise to the fore and dominate. (Maggie Thatcher pointed out which one, back in &#8217;95; it&#8217;s the one she said whose &#8220;national character is to <b>dominate&#8230;</b>)</p>
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		<title>By: David Ben-Ariel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ben-Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparency sounds good, but don&#039;t trust politicians to deliver it. President usurper Obama/Soetoro/Obama has failed to be transparent with his original (long form) birth certificate, school records, passport records and immigration records. Why, if he has nothing to hide? Clearly, Obama/Soetoro/Obama appears to be a shady character engaged in mass deception, disrespecting We The People, treating our Constitution with contempt, and hell-bent on destroying our Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparency sounds good, but don&#8217;t trust politicians to deliver it. President usurper Obama/Soetoro/Obama has failed to be transparent with his original (long form) birth certificate, school records, passport records and immigration records. Why, if he has nothing to hide? Clearly, Obama/Soetoro/Obama appears to be a shady character engaged in mass deception, disrespecting We The People, treating our Constitution with contempt, and hell-bent on destroying our Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massive resources? Even countries as small as Luxembourg can carry out the responsibilities of a Presidency successfully provided, and it is a big proviso, national politicians grasp the fact that what is required is a core of about 200 effective chairpersons.

Highjacking the rotating presidency to promote national prestige and objectives has been a feature of all Presidencies.  Of the many meetings that take place outside the places of work of the EU (Brussels, Luxembourg and Strasbourg), none are formally required and the cost, appropriately, falls to the Member State that chooses to host them.

The phenomenon is one of the strongest arguments for abandoning the system of rotating presidencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massive resources? Even countries as small as Luxembourg can carry out the responsibilities of a Presidency successfully provided, and it is a big proviso, national politicians grasp the fact that what is required is a core of about 200 effective chairpersons.</p>
<p>Highjacking the rotating presidency to promote national prestige and objectives has been a feature of all Presidencies.  Of the many meetings that take place outside the places of work of the EU (Brussels, Luxembourg and Strasbourg), none are formally required and the cost, appropriately, falls to the Member State that chooses to host them.</p>
<p>The phenomenon is one of the strongest arguments for abandoning the system of rotating presidencies.</p>
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		<title>By: Rotating leaders « Behind the Scenes &#124; Czech Today</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1728</link>
		<dc:creator>Rotating leaders « Behind the Scenes &#124; Czech Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] View original post here: Rotating leaders « Behind the Scenes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparency? Would that be defined via the Stockholm Programme, where being transparent means surrender of personal privacy...? As for &quot;green credentials&quot;, defining &quot;green&quot; in the context of the IPCC is the embracing of pseudo-science and the &quot;new age&quot; of secularised Gaia-worship.

The positions of European president, foreign minister and commission president are currently defined by the slippery slope of declining freedom and increasing authoritarianism in the EU&#151;all positions thereof are, like the status quo, &lt;i&gt;appointed&lt;/i&gt; and unaccountable to the public. What makes it worse is that the power gets concentrated in fewer hands. Why cannot the executive be &lt;i&gt;elected?&lt;/i&gt; Thus far, the EU has been one of the greatest expressions of the rule of &lt;i&gt;man&lt;/i&gt; versus the rule of &lt;i&gt;law.&lt;/i&gt; Should this allow to continue, or should it be stopped in its tracks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparency? Would that be defined via the Stockholm Programme, where being transparent means surrender of personal privacy&#8230;? As for &#8220;green credentials&#8221;, defining &#8220;green&#8221; in the context of the IPCC is the embracing of pseudo-science and the &#8220;new age&#8221; of secularised Gaia-worship.</p>
<p>The positions of European president, foreign minister and commission president are currently defined by the slippery slope of declining freedom and increasing authoritarianism in the EU&#8212;all positions thereof are, like the status quo, <i>appointed</i> and unaccountable to the public. What makes it worse is that the power gets concentrated in fewer hands. Why cannot the executive be <i>elected?</i> Thus far, the EU has been one of the greatest expressions of the rule of <i>man</i> versus the rule of <i>law.</i> Should this allow to continue, or should it be stopped in its tracks?</p>
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		<title>By: The Swedish Presidency: Will Iceland be the success story? &#171; Mats Engström</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/mahony/2009/07/01/rotating-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>The Swedish Presidency: Will Iceland be the success story? &#171; Mats Engström</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More blogs on the Swedish Presidency: Coulisses de Bruxelles, Honor Mahony, Julien Frisch, Peter Sain ley Berry, Stephen Spillane, World Politics Review, Possibly related [...]</description>
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