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	<description>Benjamin Fox is journalist who joined EUobserver in 2012 after spending a number of years as a political advisor in the UK and European Parliaments. He writes on economic affairs, the European Parliament and the digital agenda.</description>
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		<title>By: jon livesey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>jon livesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the Wiki:

&quot;Gottfried Feder (27 January 1883 – 24 September 1941) was an economist and one of the early key members of the Nazi Party. He was their economic theoretician. Initially, it was his lecture in 1919 that drew Hitler into the party.&quot;

&quot;Adolf Hitler met him in summer 1919, and Feder became his mentor in finance and economics. He was the inspirer of Hitler&#039;s opposition to &quot;Jewish finance capitalism.&quot;

I guess that tells me about all I need to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Wiki:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gottfried Feder (27 January 1883 – 24 September 1941) was an economist and one of the early key members of the Nazi Party. He was their economic theoretician. Initially, it was his lecture in 1919 that drew Hitler into the party.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Adolf Hitler met him in summer 1919, and Feder became his mentor in finance and economics. He was the inspirer of Hitler&#8217;s opposition to &#8220;Jewish finance capitalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess that tells me about all I need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: jon livesey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>jon livesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you could ban countries from borrowing, you would at the same time cancel their ability to stimulate their economies in times of recession.

If a country can&#039;t borrow, then the amount the public sector can spend is strictly limited by tax revenue, and that would make it impossible to rescue itself from recession, since the public sector would be extracting as much from the private sector as it spends.

And no matter how &quot;virtuous&quot; that might seem, in practical terms we saw the consequences in the Thirties.

The other problem with banning borrowing by sovereigns is that lenders don&#039;t buy sovereign debt for patriotic or sentimental reasons, but because financial institutions - pension funds, insurance companies, endowments, etc - have specific future liabilities to meet, and therefore have to have predictable future income from default-free instruments.

In a normal country with its own sovereign fiat currency - think the US, UK, Japan - sovereign debt is that default-free instrument.   Since such a country controls the supply of its own currency, it cannot be made to default.   In financial language, it has no solvency limit.

In a country that borrows in a foreign currency, or in a common currency like the euro, sovereign debt is no longer default free, since such a country cannot create the currency it needs to pay its debt.

So the Bond Markets are not being perverse or tyrannical at all.    They are simply recognizing that the euro-area is a very strange beast in which what would in a normal country be default-free no longer is.   Hence the risk premium that they - quite correctly - impose on the euro periphery from time to time.

Please remember that the first duty of a pension fund is to its pensioners, not to the ego of the guys in Brussels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you could ban countries from borrowing, you would at the same time cancel their ability to stimulate their economies in times of recession.</p>
<p>If a country can&#8217;t borrow, then the amount the public sector can spend is strictly limited by tax revenue, and that would make it impossible to rescue itself from recession, since the public sector would be extracting as much from the private sector as it spends.</p>
<p>And no matter how &#8220;virtuous&#8221; that might seem, in practical terms we saw the consequences in the Thirties.</p>
<p>The other problem with banning borrowing by sovereigns is that lenders don&#8217;t buy sovereign debt for patriotic or sentimental reasons, but because financial institutions &#8211; pension funds, insurance companies, endowments, etc &#8211; have specific future liabilities to meet, and therefore have to have predictable future income from default-free instruments.</p>
<p>In a normal country with its own sovereign fiat currency &#8211; think the US, UK, Japan &#8211; sovereign debt is that default-free instrument.   Since such a country controls the supply of its own currency, it cannot be made to default.   In financial language, it has no solvency limit.</p>
<p>In a country that borrows in a foreign currency, or in a common currency like the euro, sovereign debt is no longer default free, since such a country cannot create the currency it needs to pay its debt.</p>
<p>So the Bond Markets are not being perverse or tyrannical at all.    They are simply recognizing that the euro-area is a very strange beast in which what would in a normal country be default-free no longer is.   Hence the risk premium that they &#8211; quite correctly &#8211; impose on the euro periphery from time to time.</p>
<p>Please remember that the first duty of a pension fund is to its pensioners, not to the ego of the guys in Brussels.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Fox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 18:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comments. Marc - I&#039;m no fan of austerity, believe me. I also agree that the bond market is too powerful. One of the main structural flaws in the eurozone is that the lack of a bank lender of last resort leaves country&#039;s open to speculative attack.

Countries have to be able to borrow money just like most of the rest of us have to - whether it&#039;s the mortgage on our home, car or student loan. It&#039;s the way the world works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments. Marc &#8211; I&#8217;m no fan of austerity, believe me. I also agree that the bond market is too powerful. One of the main structural flaws in the eurozone is that the lack of a bank lender of last resort leaves country&#8217;s open to speculative attack.</p>
<p>Countries have to be able to borrow money just like most of the rest of us have to &#8211; whether it&#8217;s the mortgage on our home, car or student loan. It&#8217;s the way the world works.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Berlsusconi is member of P2 and P2 controled Operation Gladio with assasination of Aldo Moro and Olof Palme. He should be hanged. For sure.

It is not necessary for the Right to reinvent the financial wheel. There is a large corpus of material that was formulated decades ago by keen minds on the subject, and because the financial system has not changed, the relevance of these ideas remains. Those such as Silvio Gesell, Ezra Pound, Charles Coughlin, C. H. Douglas, John A. Lee, and Gottfried Feder, should again become required reading and subjects of discussion. Instead, where there is discussion on finance among the Right it often involves some idiot scheme about a silver or a gold standard. The major cause of World War II was fear of Germany’s new banking system, and also the barter trading system that was allowing Germany to displace the USA, Britain, and others in world trade.

As Feder states throughout his manifesto, currency (or credit) is simply intended as a means of exchange, not as a profit-making commodity via usury. During the Medieval era usurers were executed; now they are regarded as the epitome of respectable business practice.

Finally, the ideals of liberating all of mankind from the slavery of usury is one that can capture the imagination of multitudes of people of goodwill, as it once did during the 1920s and 1930s. It is an alternative that leaves Marxism for dead and demands the utmost idealism, based on the closing words by Feder: “Give me your hands, workers of all lands, unite!” (Manifesto, p. 57).

Feder: “Closing of the nation externally with all freedom and diversity internally. This is the correct idea of a German state.”

I think Grillo have read it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berlsusconi is member of P2 and P2 controled Operation Gladio with assasination of Aldo Moro and Olof Palme. He should be hanged. For sure.</p>
<p>It is not necessary for the Right to reinvent the financial wheel. There is a large corpus of material that was formulated decades ago by keen minds on the subject, and because the financial system has not changed, the relevance of these ideas remains. Those such as Silvio Gesell, Ezra Pound, Charles Coughlin, C. H. Douglas, John A. Lee, and Gottfried Feder, should again become required reading and subjects of discussion. Instead, where there is discussion on finance among the Right it often involves some idiot scheme about a silver or a gold standard. The major cause of World War II was fear of Germany’s new banking system, and also the barter trading system that was allowing Germany to displace the USA, Britain, and others in world trade.</p>
<p>As Feder states throughout his manifesto, currency (or credit) is simply intended as a means of exchange, not as a profit-making commodity via usury. During the Medieval era usurers were executed; now they are regarded as the epitome of respectable business practice.</p>
<p>Finally, the ideals of liberating all of mankind from the slavery of usury is one that can capture the imagination of multitudes of people of goodwill, as it once did during the 1920s and 1930s. It is an alternative that leaves Marxism for dead and demands the utmost idealism, based on the closing words by Feder: “Give me your hands, workers of all lands, unite!” (Manifesto, p. 57).</p>
<p>Feder: “Closing of the nation externally with all freedom and diversity internally. This is the correct idea of a German state.”</p>
<p>I think Grillo have read it</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, a journalist who seems primarily concerned about the parasitic financial markets and thieving bankers.

It is a matter of supreme indifference to me what financial markets and bankers think of election results. Countries can simply stop borrowing money (indeed, they never should be allowed to borrow any in the first place) and then what for these &#039;financial markets&#039;? No more profits at the expense of people.

But what to do with these bankers that we shall then no longer need?

I reckon mr Robespierre will be asked to get on stage sooner than we all think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, a journalist who seems primarily concerned about the parasitic financial markets and thieving bankers.</p>
<p>It is a matter of supreme indifference to me what financial markets and bankers think of election results. Countries can simply stop borrowing money (indeed, they never should be allowed to borrow any in the first place) and then what for these &#8216;financial markets&#8217;? No more profits at the expense of people.</p>
<p>But what to do with these bankers that we shall then no longer need?</p>
<p>I reckon mr Robespierre will be asked to get on stage sooner than we all think.</p>
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		<title>By: Frida</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>Frida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Traditionally the Italian citizens are afraid of the left wing as they: first, associate the left to the former USSR communist party, secondly they link the left wing to tax increase. No matter what Berlusconi has done, they still believe that under his &quot;regime&quot; everyone lives better. Life is not ruled by the law of tribunals, but by a pragmatic approach to day-to-day issues. It might be narrow minded but this is the reality. I don&#039;t like it but it is a consequence of cultural approach to politics. Italians tend to delegate and lack of participation. The vote expressed last weekend shows anger to the political system nonetheless people still go for immediate result rather then invest on the long term. Berlusconi knows it and it has been using this method since 1994 and pays back. Then we will see the consequences. Me, included - being Italian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditionally the Italian citizens are afraid of the left wing as they: first, associate the left to the former USSR communist party, secondly they link the left wing to tax increase. No matter what Berlusconi has done, they still believe that under his &#8220;regime&#8221; everyone lives better. Life is not ruled by the law of tribunals, but by a pragmatic approach to day-to-day issues. It might be narrow minded but this is the reality. I don&#8217;t like it but it is a consequence of cultural approach to politics. Italians tend to delegate and lack of participation. The vote expressed last weekend shows anger to the political system nonetheless people still go for immediate result rather then invest on the long term. Berlusconi knows it and it has been using this method since 1994 and pays back. Then we will see the consequences. Me, included &#8211; being Italian.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr@ncesco</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/fox/2013/02/26/only-in-italy/comment-page-1/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr@ncesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very happy to vote for Berlusconi in these elections. Cheers from Italy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very happy to vote for Berlusconi in these elections. Cheers from Italy!</p>
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