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	<title>Comments on: Egypt and the psychology of dictatorship. An outsider&#8217;s perspective.</title>
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	<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/</link>
	<description>Koert Debeuf lives in Cairo, where he represents the EU parliament&#039;s Alde group. He is the former advisor of a Belgian prime minister. Reporting from post-revolutionary Egypt, his blog is a window on events in the Arab world.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us worry about the malignant tumor in Brussels first. The Eurosoviet dictatorship must be gotten rid of at all costs. No one voted for this undemcoratic monstrosity that is stealing ever more of our money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us worry about the malignant tumor in Brussels first. The Eurosoviet dictatorship must be gotten rid of at all costs. No one voted for this undemcoratic monstrosity that is stealing ever more of our money.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The understated whitewash Jon Livesay describes vis a vis the French and Bolsehvik Revolution applies a fortiori to the Muslim Brotherhood, did the other revolutionaries aim ab initio at world domination, the suppression of all dissent did they ever spawn anything like Al Qaeeda, the Gama&#039;a Islamiya and Hamas as splinter groups? They have started badly, bitten off more than they can chew, and things will worsen fast.
The great advantage of Morsi&#039;s indiscrete ambition is that the entire blame for the economic sink Egypt is fast heading to become will focus very intensely upon him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The understated whitewash Jon Livesay describes vis a vis the French and Bolsehvik Revolution applies a fortiori to the Muslim Brotherhood, did the other revolutionaries aim ab initio at world domination, the suppression of all dissent did they ever spawn anything like Al Qaeeda, the Gama&#8217;a Islamiya and Hamas as splinter groups? They have started badly, bitten off more than they can chew, and things will worsen fast.<br />
The great advantage of Morsi&#8217;s indiscrete ambition is that the entire blame for the economic sink Egypt is fast heading to become will focus very intensely upon him.</p>
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		<title>By: jon livesey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>jon livesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; After the French revolution some leaders wanted to fight against the counterrevolutionary forces. They weren’t butchers by nature.&quot;

On the contrary, that&#039;s exactly what they were.  They replaced a single guillotine in Paris with twenty one guillotines, going six days a week.   How are we going to judge them?     By what they did, or by some after the fact white-washing?

In some ways, the french Revolution has perverted all continental European thinking.   It has been declared a &quot;good thing&quot; and now it can be used to justify any kind of state terrorism as long as it can be portrayed as fighting the &quot;counter-revolution&quot;.

The leaders of the French Revolution &quot;weren&#039;t butchers&quot;; they merely killed a half million people.   Lenin &quot;made mistakes&quot;; among them restoring the death penalty the liberal democrats had abolished.

&quot;Do you seen what you did here, Vladimir?   You have restored the death penalty.&quot;    &quot;Oops, my bad.&quot;

What on Earth is it with Europeans?   Morsi just granted himself pretty much absolute power, and they try to spin it with babble about the Press &quot;not being kind&quot;.

Pardon me, but is it the job of the Press to be kind?   Is the UK Press kind to Cameron?   Would you find a way to defend Cameron if he granted himself absolute power by decree?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; After the French revolution some leaders wanted to fight against the counterrevolutionary forces. They weren’t butchers by nature.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the contrary, that&#8217;s exactly what they were.  They replaced a single guillotine in Paris with twenty one guillotines, going six days a week.   How are we going to judge them?     By what they did, or by some after the fact white-washing?</p>
<p>In some ways, the french Revolution has perverted all continental European thinking.   It has been declared a &#8220;good thing&#8221; and now it can be used to justify any kind of state terrorism as long as it can be portrayed as fighting the &#8220;counter-revolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>The leaders of the French Revolution &#8220;weren&#8217;t butchers&#8221;; they merely killed a half million people.   Lenin &#8220;made mistakes&#8221;; among them restoring the death penalty the liberal democrats had abolished.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you seen what you did here, Vladimir?   You have restored the death penalty.&#8221;    &#8220;Oops, my bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>What on Earth is it with Europeans?   Morsi just granted himself pretty much absolute power, and they try to spin it with babble about the Press &#8220;not being kind&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pardon me, but is it the job of the Press to be kind?   Is the UK Press kind to Cameron?   Would you find a way to defend Cameron if he granted himself absolute power by decree?</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In transition democracies the personality of the leaders are as important as their ideologies.  You basically have two ideologies:  conservative/reactionary and liberal/progressive.  But you also have two leadership personality types authoritarian and less authoritarian (otherwise you aren’t in politics).  Both the ideologies and the personality types reflect a need for either freedom or control.

It is very easy for a liberal revolutionary to become an authoritarian dictator if he can’t part with power/control or if the country is seen as not soon matching the leader’s ideals.  The first case can be seen as tyrannical while the second could be considered benign, but both are ineffective in the long run because instead of building culture and institutions they become cults of the individual.

The problem for the left is that their members are mostly of the freedom type, which means they will mobilize at intervals, but will want to get back to their own lives soon.  The right has the advantage that their members want to control other people’s lives, so they can in a sense be permanently mobilized.

Morsi´s actions will not be opposed by the West, because in a way they resemble what the West has also been forced to go through in its own transitions.  The West has also seen how democracy/liberalism in Turkey in the end brought Islamists to power no matter what obstacles were put on the way.

It is up to the Egyptians to decide if they want a liberal democratic republic based on constitutionalism or if they want to be another “Islamic” republic based on populist elections, murky rule of law and major limitations of freedom of conscience and expression.

Constitutions in the end matter less than what is taught in schools and what is seen on television.  The free flow of information and the ability to retake protests is what really matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In transition democracies the personality of the leaders are as important as their ideologies.  You basically have two ideologies:  conservative/reactionary and liberal/progressive.  But you also have two leadership personality types authoritarian and less authoritarian (otherwise you aren’t in politics).  Both the ideologies and the personality types reflect a need for either freedom or control.</p>
<p>It is very easy for a liberal revolutionary to become an authoritarian dictator if he can’t part with power/control or if the country is seen as not soon matching the leader’s ideals.  The first case can be seen as tyrannical while the second could be considered benign, but both are ineffective in the long run because instead of building culture and institutions they become cults of the individual.</p>
<p>The problem for the left is that their members are mostly of the freedom type, which means they will mobilize at intervals, but will want to get back to their own lives soon.  The right has the advantage that their members want to control other people’s lives, so they can in a sense be permanently mobilized.</p>
<p>Morsi´s actions will not be opposed by the West, because in a way they resemble what the West has also been forced to go through in its own transitions.  The West has also seen how democracy/liberalism in Turkey in the end brought Islamists to power no matter what obstacles were put on the way.</p>
<p>It is up to the Egyptians to decide if they want a liberal democratic republic based on constitutionalism or if they want to be another “Islamic” republic based on populist elections, murky rule of law and major limitations of freedom of conscience and expression.</p>
<p>Constitutions in the end matter less than what is taught in schools and what is seen on television.  The free flow of information and the ability to retake protests is what really matters.</p>
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		<title>By: The &#8216;moderate&#8217; Muslim Brotherhood&#8217;s Egyptian power grab</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>The &#8216;moderate&#8217; Muslim Brotherhood&#8217;s Egyptian power grab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] including Mr. Moussa, called for a new assembly less dominated by Islamists.If interested in an alternate view about which party has trouble with the difficulties of democracy, read this EUObserver analysis from Koert Debeuf. Reuters had more over a week ago about the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] including Mr. Moussa, called for a new assembly less dominated by Islamists.If interested in an alternate view about which party has trouble with the difficulties of democracy, read this EUObserver analysis from Koert Debeuf. Reuters had more over a week ago about the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amr Arafa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.euobserver.com/debeuf/2012/11/25/egypt-and-the-psychology-of-dictatorship-an-outsiders-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Amr Arafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with kört about the comparison between Nassir and Morsi, as Nasser was actually the Leader of the revolution of 1952, and I totally agree that he started to be paranoid and went down the bunker to protect “HIS” revolution, but the 25 January 2011 revolution is not by any means the made of the Islamic groups or the Muslim brotherhood, and Morsi is merely a follower in his cult and never a leader.
The thing is that the Muslim brotherhood (who lived under the regimes table for decades) has never been revolutionary, but they rather seized the moment, and jumped over the revolutionary train, then jumped off as soon as they could.
Now that they are exposed to light, and everyone saw their real nature after watching the members of the dissolved parliament, and everyone saw Morsi’s weakness and lack of vision, The Muslim brotherhood and their Islamist backup are now fighting for their life after they lost the street support, their only hope to continue ruling over Egypt; is the new constitution, a day after they pass it through voting, they will dissolve all non-Islamic political parties (liberalism, socialism, communism are anti Shareáá Laws). Islamists will be the only player in the political seen, and that is the main reason for the latest constitutional declaration, to protect the Islamic majority committee which is producing their life saving raft (known as the new constitution).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with kört about the comparison between Nassir and Morsi, as Nasser was actually the Leader of the revolution of 1952, and I totally agree that he started to be paranoid and went down the bunker to protect “HIS” revolution, but the 25 January 2011 revolution is not by any means the made of the Islamic groups or the Muslim brotherhood, and Morsi is merely a follower in his cult and never a leader.<br />
The thing is that the Muslim brotherhood (who lived under the regimes table for decades) has never been revolutionary, but they rather seized the moment, and jumped over the revolutionary train, then jumped off as soon as they could.<br />
Now that they are exposed to light, and everyone saw their real nature after watching the members of the dissolved parliament, and everyone saw Morsi’s weakness and lack of vision, The Muslim brotherhood and their Islamist backup are now fighting for their life after they lost the street support, their only hope to continue ruling over Egypt; is the new constitution, a day after they pass it through voting, they will dissolve all non-Islamic political parties (liberalism, socialism, communism are anti Shareáá Laws). Islamists will be the only player in the political seen, and that is the main reason for the latest constitutional declaration, to protect the Islamic majority committee which is producing their life saving raft (known as the new constitution).</p>
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